1. william Humphrey
  2. Valentina Database ADK
  3. Montag, August 21 2017, 04:25 PM
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Cannot successfully instal V4REV ADK on Windows 10 home computer and LiveCode version 7.0.6 Please look at the attached screenshots. I have been working on this for two days now. This horrific task is why I never upgrade LiveCode or Valentina because the installs on my Window's computer and two Macs are always the most difficult programming task I've ever done. Harder than the old days of installing Apache server.

I have Valentina Studio on this computer and access to the database works fine with that program. I had to manually copy each plugin over because neither the installer for 7 or version 5 are able to do that. Also renamed the files to as they appear in text file (either 7 or 5 -- please look at the screenshots).

I really need help but I don't know how I can be helped short of Ruslan accessing this Windows computer remotely and figuring it out. I will be happy to try more things but honestly I have tried everything!
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Ivan Smahin Akzeptierte Antwort
Did you check Valentina dlls to be properly updated in Program Files folder?

Is it local db access or remote db (under vServer)? Can you send me V4REV, vServer logs?
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william Humphrey Akzeptierte Antwort
Hi Ivan - long time since we last spoke!

You can see by the attached screenshots of the Window's computer in question that the v4rev.dll files have been manually copied over by me. See attached screenshot.

I'll look at the vServer logs next.

Bill
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william Humphrey Akzeptierte Antwort
The server is on a Mac and it does not show anything other than the access from other computer (also a mac) and when I tested Valentino Studio on the windows machine to be sure it is working. I do not remember how to get the logs on the windows machine to show what the Livecode install is trying to do with the incorrectly installed plugin.

Can you recommend a much older plugin that works? This windows machine is absolutely wearing me out. Also this is the reason I never update either LiveCode or Valentina because of the days I have to go down trying to get the install to work.
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william Humphrey Akzeptierte Antwort
Here are the server logs. Note near the bottom when I used the Windows computer and Valentino Studio to login to the server and it worked fine. Right after that I tried LiveCode again. Got the same error "can't access server" and as you can see nothing appears in the logs. It want
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william Humphrey Akzeptierte Antwort
The attached jpg shows the drivers installed in correct folders and named correctly on the Windows computer. I had to copy them manual as the install program did not do it.
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william Humphrey Akzeptierte Antwort
OK - this time it is a png and small enough. It is a picture of the correct file folders on the window's computer showing the plugins. We are really having trouble working here without this windows laptop able to run LiveCode and access the Valentina database.
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Ivan Smahin Akzeptierte Antwort
Probably your app does not use V4REV but uses revDB Valentina driver?
Please, check Externals/Database Drivers/dbvalentina5.

BTW, you can try our examples to check V4REV installation was ok.
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william Humphrey Akzeptierte Antwort
Please tell me what version of the ADK for Livecode I should download for Livecode version 7.0.6 and how I can get earlier versions to download. See the attached screenshot of your website which shows what happens when you try to download earlier versions.

Clearly can't be done. And by the way I love Valentina but I NEVER upgrade anymore and now I will religiously make full archives of my computers because it is so very very very hard to update or do any kind of install on a computer. Windows seem to be more difficult than Mac. The ADK installer for Livecode has serious problems and I find over the years those problems (now not even copying plugins to new locations) have gotten worse.

I will never be able to sell a completed version of my software because I will have to dedicate several hours to making the Valentina install on each client's computer. That is kind of a bad thing but I have been trying for four days now to get this install working on a generic window's computer.

Very frustrating
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Lynn Fredricks Akzeptierte Antwort
There have been some problems with the previous version / beta links since we made the entire site secure. We've changed it to do a simple pop up window so all the old versions are accessible again (not as pretty, but utility is what we need).

Are you installing both on Windows and Mac? It is possible that locations have changed a bit as a result.
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Ivan Smahin Akzeptierte Antwort
1. Again, it seems the problem is in revDB Valentina driver - not V4REV.

Please check Externals/Database Drivers/Database Drivers.txt file

Here is content on my comp:

MySQL,dbmysql.bundle
ODBC,dbodbc.bundle
PostgreSQL,dbpostgresql.bundle
SqLite,dbsqlite.bundle
vSQLite,dbvsqlite
Valentina5,dbvalentina5

Pay attention to the last row.

2. Your new Valentina Studio works fine yes? Is it 32 or 64 bit?
3. What about Valentina examples - did you check them? Are they able to connect vServer?
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Ruslan Zasukhin Akzeptierte Antwort
Hi,

just in case let me clarify

V4REV is 32 bit.
I have hear LiveCode now have 64 bit version.
so in case you installed 64 bit LiveCode it will not work.
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Sergey Pashkov Akzeptierte Antwort
Hi William,

The Install.rev script wasn't updated so it is wrong now.

So that's what I did and it works for me:
1. Installed V4REV 7
2. Restarted system
3. Renamed dbvalentina.dll to dbvalentina5.dll (in the C:\Users\user\Documents\Paradigma Software\V4REV_7)
4. Executed Install.rev
5. Restarted LiveCode
6. Opened an example (I used V4REV_7\Examples\API_way\Field_CreateDrop\Field_CreateDrop.rev) - it works

So now I have following folders:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Paradigma Software\vcomponents_win_vc\

C:\Users\user\Documents\My LiveCode\Runtime\Windows\x86-32\Externals\
Externals.txt with text "Valentina5,v4rev.dll"
v4rev.dll

C:\Users\user\Documents\My LiveCode\Runtime\Windows\x86-32\Externals\Database Drivers\
Database Drivers.txt with text "Valentina5,dbvalentina5.dll"
dbvalentina5.dll

C:\Users\user\Documents\My LiveCode\Externals\
Externals.txt with text "Valentina5,v4rev.dll"
v4rev.dll

C:\Users\user\Documents\My LiveCode\Externals\Database Drivers\
Database Drivers.txt with text "Valentina5,dbvalentina5.dll"
dbvalentina5.dll

You can match it with your files.
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william Humphrey Akzeptierte Antwort
Thanks. That works! That solved the install but for some reason I'm not seeing my external server so I want to test my database files with the server on that window's machine and then try and figure out why it can't see the external server.

Please remind me where the logs are for windows install of Livecode running Valentina plugin. I've got to now figure out why it can't see the server.
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Ruslan Zasukhin Akzeptierte Antwort
Hi William,

1) does Valentina Studio on that win machine see external server?

2) V4REV LOGS can be enabled by command Valentina_DebugLevel (please check docs or our examples)
Location most probably near to stack, or near to LiveCode app itself.
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